On The Porch With Front Porch Music
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The Front Porch has long been a staple in country music ... and that's what we are. The digital front porch!
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On The Porch With Front Porch Music
John Mayer and Oscar Mayer Wiener's Love Child with Mackenzie Leigh Meyer
This week on the podcast we are joined by CMAOntario Roots Artist Of The Year ,country-roots artist Mackenzie Leigh Meyer.
She shares her journey from humble beginnings playing in dive bars to winning Roots Artist of the Year, and joining a tour with Shania Twain.
]She calls herself the Divebar Diva. It all stems from playing small, run-down bars. She tells us stories about it, including a night with three bar fights!
RELATED: Mackenzie is our women in country artist of the month spotlight for October ...
Discover Mackenzie's unique satirical country music style with hits like "Dial Tone" and "Barbie Doll." Learn about her collaborations with producer Jeff Dales and her thoughts on topics like toxic masculinity and self-teaching guitar.
Don't miss her funny music video ideas for the upcoming single, "House Husband." This episode is a must-listen for country music fans, filled with inspiration and laughter.
There's a very big Angel double dynamic here. Oh, my hands go in the opposite way. I wanted to. I guess it doesn't matter, because I don't know where I am on your glasses screen.
Jenna Weishar:You're on the bottom, so you're literally just pointing out me, and then just Angel. Yeah, that's better, angel, double dynamic.
Logan Miller:Which one's which though?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Whoa, that's true. I guess we're to be discovered.
Logan Miller:We all know I'm the Angel.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Okay.
Jason Saunders:Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of On the Porch with Front Porch Music. Once again, it's me, producer Jason. This week on the porch we have Mackenzie Lee Meyer and yes, that is Meyer, like the Oscar wiener. In this episode, her, along with Logan and Jenna, talk about how she's one of Front Porches OGs, how she won Roots Artist of the Year this year at Boots, what it's like playing an arena, and so much more. This is definitely an extensive episode, as always. If you like On the Porch with Front Porch Music, please leave us a rating on whatever podcast platform you choose, and we will catch you again in two weeks for the season finale of On the Porch with Front Porch Music. Until then, enjoy the episode and take care. We're here today with Mackenzie Lee Meyer Hello.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Hello, thank you guys, we're having me. So nice to see you.
Logan Miller:Welcome to the porch, my friend.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Thank you, I know I think this is my first time officially on the porch.
Logan Miller:Yeah, I mean, we spoke a million years ago, just when we first started and you were in the Boots and Hearts Emerging Art to showcase, yes, and we just, I distinctly remember sitting on some miscoccia chair somewhere talking to you.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yes, I know, I think we were in the VIP section.
Logan Miller:Oh, of course there was like a spot.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I mean sorry, we were in the VIP section. Yeah, yeah, no, but I do remember that and that was like pretty inaugural for front porch, right, because that was not your first.
Logan Miller:Yeah, I think that might have been our first year, our first active year as a publication.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, Wow, well, so nice to be back on these videos later. You guys are doing so great.
Logan Miller:Right back at you.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I can't believe it took us this long to have you, I mean that is life, you know well. Hey, I'm happy to be here, and I was happy to be here then. So, yeah, thank you for including me.
Jenna Weishar:Wow.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Our little come up.
Jenna Weishar:Journeys are like side by side now.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I know, and honestly, having it be like a while between two different like times we get to talk to someone is like wow, well, we've grown a lot. Now there's a whole ton of stuff we could talk about because it's been so long since we've been able to, like, watch each other Glow up, if you will.
Jenna Weishar:Do you remember your first interviews where people were always just like so who are you? Where did you come from?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, you know what? I'm still pretty indie, so a lot of the time I get people who don't know how to pronounce my name.
Logan Miller:What's hard to put, what's hard about your name.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Myer, I get gets mayor all the time. I just got sent back photos from a festival I just did recently in the guy called me Mackenzie Lee Miller. Now I'm like man, like this was like all over, like that's not even kind of right. All not even kind of close. Like people spell myer wrong all the time, like instead of keep you humble.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Oh yeah, so I am. If there's anything in this industry, that I am is humble, because no one remembers how to say or spell my name. So thank you guys for doing it right.
Jenna Weishar:Oh, that's so. When I first, I think, followed you at Instagram myself, you had like like Oscar Meyer Wiener in your bio. I don't know if you still do, but I was like why is that a hard one? But apparently it is a hard one and you literally have people just don't.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, and I thought that was like a funny way to approach that, because it's usually when anyone who's met me before like talk to me at all, like it's pretty, they're like oh, meyer, like you know, yeah, yeah, yeah. And when you like reads it out online, like sometimes in radio stuff, and they've never met me and I'm like new to them, I've I noticed that it kind of ends up being mayors or there's. You know who knows what. The reason is People maybe not doing as much homework as they should have, but maybe you can roll with that.
Jenna Weishar:You're like John Mayer's love child. I don't know.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:John Mayer Oscar Meyer, Wiener's love child.
Logan Miller:You heard it here first.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:You heard it here first.
Jenna Weishar:This guy would. Not that he's going to hear this at all, but imagine that guy probably is like oh shit, do I have a child over there?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I don't know, Maybe I honestly imagine there's that thought going through his head. I don't know him that well, I don't know him at all. I don't know him that well, I don't know, yeah me and John only met a couple of times on the internet or in my dreams, but yeah, I'm sure he's got that one or two times before.
Logan Miller:I'm sure he lives his life every day like that.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Well, hey, man, that's certainly a life.
Jenna Weishar:OK, before we get off track super far, because this happens before we get a cease and desist.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's true. Who are you? I'm a low people. I'm a low people?
Jenna Weishar:For those who may not know you, why don't you give us your like elevator pitch, like who are you? Where the heck did you come from?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah.
Jenna Weishar:Well.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I guess you guys got a formal spiel on my full name. It's Mackenzie Lee Meyer. I grew up in Ancaster, ontario, which is just kind of up the mountain from Hamilton, and I mean I grew up with a family that wasn't really into music other than me and so I played a bunch of piano growing up and honestly had your pretty typical like singers, I don't know grown up like phases like I played piano, I did a little bit of musical theater. Hamilton, where I'm from it, has a ton of support for kind of the arts. So I was lucky enough to kind of get to be involved in what we then called the HMAS, which was our Hamilton Music Awards. They kind of like celebrated the community so it was nice to kind of have opportunities for that Kind of.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:When I was a teenager I started writing songs. I don't know if there's like a really good journey to that. I just kind of loved being creative on piano and that kind of evolved into actually singing a little bit and then I decided to go and get a music degree from Humber and that's kind of where I ended up. Now I'm in Etobicoke these days that's just kind of like right down from where Humber's campus is and, yeah, just kind of met my band there and ever since then graduating it's been. It's been a small while since I graduated but just been kind of grinding it out in the country music scene why country music.
Jenna Weishar:Where did that? Was that always?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:part of your. You know what it's. It definitely wasn't like my identity growing up. I like to say that Ancaster is half like suburb, half country and it kind of like and my friends in high school happened to be pretty redneck for what we could consider in Canada redneck and I think maybe hanging out with them and listening to the music that they liked, that definitely influenced me to like country more, because I definitely did not come up like with Root and Toot and Parents that I was like born on, you know, george Jones and all these other like infamous, like well to do by country artists that I kind of came into after. But I think, just based on having that influence, it influenced my writing and that just kind of felt like the right spot for me to kind of put my art, if you will, and I lean on the like Roots side, so I'm not, like you know, right into country, but that seems like the right, I guess, category to put me in if you will.
Jenna Weishar:For sure, lean into the root side casually, as if you were not nominated, and won Roots Artist of the Year at the same time. Terry Owens is here.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Well, thank you, yeah, I mean, that was pretty surprising, I mean super flattering. You were so shocked. It was the sweetest thing ever. I was like at the back of the auditorium. I was nowhere close and I was like, oh, I'm just going to stand right next to the stage just in case I win. Like no, I was like deadass at the back, I don't know if I'm going to the front.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I was so far. I was like me, I was hanging out with Graham Scumflaming. We're just like we should just make sure we're in the theater to hear this, because I'm like, oh, you never know.
Logan Miller:Let's see who I'm losing to.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, yeah, I'm like let's see who I'm losing to this year, like that's my third nomination, so I'm like I'm ready to just clap and you make your sore loser faces. And what I did not prepare was a gracious winter face, that's for sure, because I was like what? Like I was shocked and honestly, you always prepare a couple of thank you's, but I definitely wish I had been like hey, here's my formal Thank you so much. But yeah, that one was pretty special because my mom was there and I'm from Hamilton, which they were at this year. So apparently my mom cried, I wasn't.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I wasn't extra what had happened, but hearing that I'm like, oh, that's what kind of makes it worth it. So thank you, CMA Ontario, for making my mom cry.
Logan Miller:And then you were whisked away backstage for a whirlwind of media stuff and that just never seemed to end, because I was back there too, not with you, but I was back there too.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:No, it was. It was definitely like a media experience and again, obviously that's my first award, so I had no idea that. That was kind of the expectation. And well, I mean I'm happy to do a bunch of interviews, I love doing that, so I'm just like, wow, everything's making me feel so like special. Right now People want to talk to me and take my photo. But yeah, it's definitely a really cool experience for me this year getting that.
Logan Miller:So, going back to that journey, to that moment, I guess ultimately to that moment and many more to come, I'm sure you kind of made the rounds playing in different dive bars and a lot of different bars. You called yourself or I don't know if you still call yourself the dive bar diva. I do Love that name, by the way.
Jenna Weishar:Thank you.
Logan Miller:So what's the wildest kind of dive bar that you ever played at? You don't have to name names, but just kind of like the dive-iest of gringy grossness.
Jenna Weishar:Oh, spell them.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I mean, it's hard to pick one. No, but the reason I'll explain what that name came about because there was one bar where I had a moment where I'm like wow, like I'm the dive-bar diva because this bar is so dive-y and I'm dressed like I'm performing at the Ritz or something like that. But it was and it was. Oh, what year was this? It might have been like 2013, 2014,.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:When I was like, just for sure, when I was just coming up, I was working with this quote unquote booking agent and they just did some pretty casual hubs and bars that were like kind of your nine to one bar band stuff, and he was getting us work.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:So I was taking it and most of the time it was pretty good work. We would just play some country covers at some kind of restaurant-type places, get our money and get out of there. And then this one time he just kind of told us to go to this bar and I will say where it is. I won't say what bar it is In kitchen areas like hey, like drive out here and you'll play from three sets and then you'll go home. We're like great, so we do that. We go to set up. This guy had never been to this bar and he failed to mention that. He just kind of like booked it at us and we went there and we step into this bar and it's like a bar you would be afraid to go in if you were just like stepping around the corner somewhere.
Logan Miller:See Jenna's coughing her head like this because this is her neck of the woods and she's thinking of every bar in that area. Right now it's trying to figure out which one it is.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:There's no. I mean, I'm happy to tell you later, jenna, but there's no way that you've ever stepped in there. It was kind of like I don't know Jenna's pretty sketchy.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, jenna, just sketchy vibes. So actually it's your favorite bar, no, but it's so. We get in there and we're like oh, like this is definitely a dive, like we're not going to linger here longer than we need to, but we are hired to be here and we've already driven, and how are we to get here? So we're going to set up and kind of do our thing and not cause issues.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Get out. In the course of the time that we were there, there were three bar fights, like just amongst people being too drunk, and these are some pretty hard-looking people. Ok, it's not like me and Jenna fighting because, for no reason at all, some dumb catty fight. I'm like this is like a biker war or something like that and we're like wow, we are not safe here.
Jenna Weishar:Nothing happened.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Nothing happened. No one gave us trouble, but it was like the place had not been clean since the summer. It was wintertime when we were there. They were like dead bees on tables and we had no light above us and the waitress like so you were singing in the shadows, OK, well yes, but we're like we've got there, like, hey, this light's not working.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:The waitress is like, ok, no problem. She walks across the other side of the bar like, say, like my other living room behind me here, distance walks over there, unscrews a light that's like on top of that area. She's like standing on their pool table and doing it, pulls that light bulb out. First off, why was that not burning our fingers? Secondly, it comes back over and then screws it into our spot where we were supposed to play, and then it like goes on for like a bit and then it just dies and I'm like what a waste of energy and also what. So, anyway, that was the dye bar. That definitely made me feel like I was on the dye bar Because on top of that, I was dressed really nice. I had like curled my hair like you tried like a little like pretty good for your gigs, and I showed up and it was that place and I'm like why did I wear a dress?
Logan Miller:What was the point?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, and it's like and people, no one was mean, like everyone was nice to us. It was just like one of those things from like mm, I can't, it's too sketchy, like, so that's important, I got it. I got it. Yeah, I can't come back. Sorry, guys, oh that's so funny.
Jenna Weishar:So it wasn't anywhere I've ever been, because I've never been scared at a bar in Kitchener, so I would be like full Lord if you had ever been there before.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:And it was one of those like sports bar types, like they were watching the Leafs game while we were there and it wasn't like a big it's not like a big chain or nothing, but like the crowd there was there to watch the Leafs game and apparently brawl. So that's, that's what it was.
Jenna Weishar:I feel like you could have put some some background music to those fights. Could have been kind of funny.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:You know what I wish? I wish I could remember what we were playing when they fight it, because we just, we just kept playing Like we're like well, we're not going to be like, oh, fight, fight, fight like over our PA and whatever.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:it's like like, like we'll just gotta be, but you know, I'm like they're, they're fighting to stuff like footloose and any man of mine Like just you're like typical, like we were playing country, like that's what we were hard to do, so it's like so that's the type of our diva is a professional. She, she has paid her dues at some spots, that's for sure yeah, no kidding.
Jenna Weishar:That's really funny too, because when I would go to this stampede Corral in Kitchener, I was like this place is rowdy.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:See, I love the corral. Used to play there religiously and like that.
Jenna Weishar:that place is fun, like there is people always fought there too and I thought it had to do with it being too open and there being like Is like Dallas nightclub never had a problem. But I think when you mix live music and too big of a space, people start to think they have more than they do and they get on each other's toes and people get way too drunk. And, yeah, the corral like it was fine, but I think I got scared sometimes because people had broken bottles in the air and I'm like I could kill someone. I'm going home.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, there's definitely some like young egos there that are like oh, I just want to like. Oh, you stepped on my toe dancing, like I'm going to beat you up, like in that. Yeah, I think those rooms have never really been able to escape that, but I've never really thought about it being a layout issue. I wonder if that's like part of the problem.
Jenna Weishar:Honor wiser, I'm talking to you. I wonder when doing the fighting with the second, my brother turned 19. And I would see him and his friends out and I'd be like I am too small to go in there. But I'd like, yeah, stop. My cousin would be like, are you it go away. And I'm like you're going to go to jail. This isn't like funny bar fight, this is jail, I know.
Logan Miller:I can't wait for your brother to hear this I feel like people.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I feel like people forget it's Literally a cell Like well, you could, you could. Like you can get charged for that, like I'm, yeah, like you want a criminal record, like have a blast, like for me. I just think it's such a dumb way to resolve any type of like, emotion, like get someone else kicked out Like don't get yourself picked up, because then your night's over Like sorry, but Well, literally. Obviously, alcohol and just general anger does not mix well, and I guess people pay the price for that sometimes, but no.
Logan Miller:I mean not your brother. I'm like I'll yell, I'll get mouthy, but I'm not fighting anybody. No, mostly because I think I'd lose.
Jenna Weishar:But yeah, I, I have this complex. My cousin and I at boots and hearts this year were talking about this because we saw people fighting and I was like, see, I have. We both have the same complex where I'm like if that were me, I don't care if I'm side foot too, I'd win the fight. And she's like me too. I'm like we probably wouldn't, though she's like yeah, yeah I feel you.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I have big time Chihuahua energy, which is probably what I would call that. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, you want to go, you want to go, but I'm like yeah, I'm five, four. Like you're not getting like a high advantage. I might be able to like take someone out because their center of gravity is just like way higher than me. But, like, that is my only benefit. You know, like, and maybe just you know, having the right attitude to kick some butt.
Jenna Weishar:I can do it, I can do it, the mentality.
Logan Miller:I think I'm just too lazy, like that's a lot of effort.
Jenna Weishar:That is fair. That'll keep you out of trouble.
Logan Miller:Yeah.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, that's, that's a good way, that's a good lazy. I wish I had more.
Jenna Weishar:Okay, Okay, let's um. We love the dive bar stories, but maybe we aren't exciting violence at the club.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's true. We're not trying to incite violent violence. Don't listen to us. No, we're not playing those clubs anymore.
Jenna Weishar:No, no, you can turn down those venues, right.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yes, we can and also, being obviously not on the dance floor, I've knocked the one game, you're right. We're all. So, even if I'm a little like there's like some of those places have like fences across, I don't know if it gets everyone to boots. In bourbon in Toronto, I was like it's like rock and hard. It's like one of those just like country bars. I mean, I've never seen a stage do that, but I guess that must have been a problem there for them to even think about having that as like a something they need for the bar atmosphere, Like.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:But uh, anyways, uh, yes, it's been a while since I've been in a bar where, well, you've definitely graduated, because earlier this year you were. You were playing, just like a couple of years ago. I mean, I've never seen a stage do that.
Logan Miller:But I guess that must have been a problem there for them to even think about having to some giant arenas.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's definitely just like a yeah, just like a mild step up, I think you know from being unsafe to uh playing an arena.
Logan Miller:You joined uh with Robin Adelini's band to play for the Queen of Me tour with Shania.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I did. That was definitely a crazy twist that this year had for me, but no kidding.
Logan Miller:Talk about a difference between a biker bar to like arenas across the country.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I mean definitely.
Logan Miller:I'm sure there were still fights there, but Fights that we couldn't see, though, because you're right, it was.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:It wasn't arena, um, which is why, like, obviously that's my first arena tour ever and honestly, like not something I ever thought I would accomplish in my life, and so stoked that Robin really wanted to kind of have me on board.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Um, she's like a really big supporter of women in music. Um, I know you guys just had Nicole Ray she's Robin, to me, is like a top two for that. She's always trying to do things that support other women and she's her music in general is also like very like femme forward Like, and so it was a really big treat to get to join a camp like that. But, yeah, she basically wanted another female in her band and because I had gone through kind of the schooling, like I am an artist but I'm also a musician and sometimes artists are not both those things and I love working as a musician just on the side of being an artist as well, and they kind of auditioned me as like someone who could be in that and then ended up picking me for that and that, obviously, that too are not kind of done all her dates this summer as well. So, uh, yeah, it's been a. It's been a crazy very no kidding, happy year.
Logan Miller:I've had the privilege of seeing you perform with Robin not addition, I show, but and and you looked so great and comfortable comfortable on the stage with her. But I can only imagine the first show where you're on that tour to a giant arena, like, obviously you've prepped yourself in your head Like this is going to be weird, wild and cool. But like when it got to the time of actually stepping out onto that stage, what was going through your head? Was it like a shit moment? I felt like surprisingly cool.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:And I feel like like I'm I've performed like a lot, a lot obviously not in an arena, but they're kind of like coming up through Humber and coming up in the scene. I've done this about a year ago Like I used to play every weekend on these. You're like long haul shows, like not artists shows, like four hour sets, and we were always entertaining. I think just having the kind of muscle memory of what it means to be to perform translates everywhere and for me I really felt that on that tour because I'm like, am I going to be nervous?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Like this is an arena full of people. Like I'm new to this band. Like this is kind of a big deal to have Robbins. Like I'm not going to be nervous, I'm not going to be nervous, I'm not going to be nervous and like this is kind of a big deal to have Robbins.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Like I would say, top show of the year, like in the first month for me of working with her, I'm like, oh my God, like this is so much to kind of like deal with. But I honestly like I I wasn't nervous, which I was really kind of like stoked for myself for it, because obviously when you feel that way, you show it performing. But I would say this like to a tee Well, in arena I was so much rather perform for 20,000 people who I can't like really really identify, rather than five people in a room who are I say that too.
Logan Miller:I mean not about performing, because I'll be shitting myself by performing, but like, even just like. I'd rather talk in front of 10,000 people than Like like what you just said. Like yeah, when it's that many people, they become almost like one person.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yes, and it becomes like a thing rather than like someone I have to make eye contact with, which obviously you do, obviously you do a little bit on that stuff, but you're pretty limited to who you could make eye contact with on the first three rows.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:The first the first three rows and it's darkness and lights, like. So for me, like that felt really easy, because there was never that pressure to like really be on, because the five people who are watching me couldn't really see me and I'm watching them, judging whether or not they like me. Like we're on those shows, you're just like kind of a performer, like an actor, and you're just presenting that to whoever decides to watch, which I find that a lot easier than making sure people care. And it's different for me too, like being Robin in that setting for sure I might have been a way different experience.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Getting to kind of be a support to what she's doing is obviously a super different role. I'm not commanding an audience other than when I have the moments to, and that definitely I can only speak on being in that role. But I wonder if it would be different if you know, if you were the front person, being like hey, everyone, hope you care about what I'm saying.
Logan Miller:For sure, for sure.
Jenna Weishar:That is so interesting, did you have? Did you see? Should I on the tour at all? Cause I've, I've spoken to openers who never saw a glimpse of her?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:We, we did just at the very end and then like almost didn't happen, like we kind of asked, being like hey, like is there a possibility we could grab a photo? And they were pretty gracious and they we kind of just did like a quick, like mainly Robin, like Robin got her photo, got to talk to her for a little bit and then we got it, got a fan photo, but she's not after your arena, like she definitely doesn't float there at all, and hang that for the day. Yeah, which?
Jenna Weishar:obviously you've never Check it out on the crew, yeah.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:You never expect Shana to just be like at the arena is, like you know, in her pajamas, like hanging out. But yeah, she kind of rolled in like right before her set and then left right after it. Hey, when you're Shania toy and like that's exactly how I would do it.
Logan Miller:You learned, you learned it.
Jenna Weishar:Yup. So you did go on your first event tour and that was super exciting. Did you learn anything new? Was there like big learning curve.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I mean there's a lot to take in about a show of that size that I think obviously I had no register for previously.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Like I've never even been close to a stage on an arena tour. So like getting to see the like just production value that goes into that and you know the amount of work that's to get that stage there and to get the band in and you know kind of everything involved like the catering, the stuff like that is was all a learning curve to me Cause I'd never been even close to something like that. So I would say for sure, for me like big takeaways are just like understanding what being on the road for something like that is like. So if I ever get there with kind of my own thing and I'm opening for someone in arena, or maybe one day I had lying in my own arena that I under, I have like a good grasp of, or a fairly good grasp of, what it kind of means to to do that I feel like it's one of those experiences where, like where you don't know until you just do it.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, like definitely nothing could have prepared me for that. Like it's not like you can rent an arena and just practice what it's like to to stand on a stage like that and look at it. People, like there's nothing that prepares you for that, Like other than just what you kind of already learned. I guess it's like running like a marathon in a way. I know some people like never run the full distance until like the day of, and then you kind of like see if you can do it.
Logan Miller:but I mean just the idea of running that distance period is a no for me. I'm not running unless I'm running away from something like like you should also go.
Jenna Weishar:If I'm running, you better pick it up to you.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's perfect. We'll just all run away from the fights we don't want to be in and leave the marathon running for other people. Yeah.
Jenna Weishar:Straight up. I actually want to ask you a little bit about your back to being the front woman, the front person at music in the fields. How was that?
Logan Miller:It was your it looked really great.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, it was so fun, like I had the chance to do that festival in 2019 on the emerging artist stage. I know you guys know Oren pretty well kind of the same path where you kind of like gotten in that contest and ever since then I've been hoping to play back at the festival because they were just so hospitable in like in that moment, like the people who are there want to come watch music and they don't know who I am then and they're happy to like let an emerging artist like backstage for their catering stuff and just like take whatever you want.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Like, which is not always the case for an emerging artist. Sometimes there's a bit more.
Logan Miller:There's like stupid tears, of like tears.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Where they're like hey, like no, you're still kind of like a fan. This is an opportunity which totally respect, because you're just trying to keep things running smoothly this year. So since then I've been like oh man, this festival is so fun, the people are so nice. I've died to come back. And when I got that one, like I guess, in the email being like hey, we'd like to have you, like that was like just the you know, such a great day and yeah, and then the festival itself by the time we got there, because it's the end of the summer. So I'm like this is going to be my like big last one. And it was amazing Like people were so accommodating, like they wanted to you know, listen, and you know it's just like a festival like that. Like it's just people have such good energy, like no one's there to tear you down, like they just want to be presented, whatever you're doing, and they want to come say hi. Like I got to meet a bunch of people, which is really nice and yeah, it was really special.
Jenna Weishar:Great way to end the summer. No kidding, no kidding. We need to jump into your form of satire and your music a little bit, because it's the best, because you're so sweet and polite. And then you jump in with this sassy music and you're like that's gonna last fire.
Logan Miller:Yes, I'm very clever lyrics.
Jenna Weishar:So we're talking, we're talking dial tone and we're talking Barbie doll, and I just want to talk about how you deliver a very key, strong message of like in dial tone shutting the fuck up, yep, and a Barbie doll. Let's talk about women and standards, and you still make it very funny. So, oh my gosh, well, thank you, I'm so flattered.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:You think that people relate to things better when it's not just like this is how it is you know, no, and definitely like, the last thing I wanted, especially for Barbie doll, is for it to sound like me being like bossy to people about how things should be, because that is not how you communicate a message that matters, because, like, people don't want to listen. So I'm so glad that neither of those tunes kind of sound like I'm being like pushy per se. But yeah, I don't know. I think satire needs to be involved in that stuff because it just makes people want to listen to it and enjoy like what you're saying.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:And you know, like those are true experiences I've had and like ways that I felt about society. So it's, it was pretty easy to pull I mean dial tone out of my butt because there are conversations where I've just been really annoyed about what someone was saying and or they're just like not paying attention to me, or what they're saying is just like really dull, like what's like why bother to share this information and keep me here, like, but anyways, I think my time, you're wasting my time at you know, like time is valuable and it's just one of those things where I'm laughing. You guys think I'm sweet and nice, but I was, I was too polite to be like, hey, like.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:And you know you never want to look like a jerk and be like, hey, like you're actually super boring, like I'm going to just exit now or like I just don't agree with what you're saying, like half, you know that's. I felt like a shade political and it's like hmm, like I don't know, like I don't agree with these. But I'm just going to say face, but I'll write about it later, that's for sure.
Jenna Weishar:That's so funny.
Logan Miller:And they're catchy as hell.
Jenna Weishar:Yeah Well thank you.
Logan Miller:But that dial tone you know what?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That part almost did not get in it, because I felt really silly going then it but. I'm like okay, okay, cool, and I'm so glad I was working with Jeff Dales over that one. I'm so glad he's like no, like we're putting this everywhere, it's going to go after every chorus because they just had it at the very end originally. And he's like no, it's like really catchy, like yeah.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I'm like, okay, like I like put it in a little bit Like let me see what he thinks, and that's, I guess, pudos to Jeff. He kind of made the call on having that everywhere, which if it's iconic, it's his responsibility. I guess I would say so. Thank you, jeff.
Logan Miller:You can almost hear the I roll when you're saying that part too.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I was definitely honing some like sass vibes trying to deliver that. So that's good that it sounds like I'm rolling my eyes, because I would be doing that in real life.
Jenna Weishar:Also, when you make something so easy for people to remember by the next chorus they're like saying that part with you, right? If anything, they've got that part down.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's true. If I would ever do a call and answer like that would be the only right to be like sing this part. You guys can't really sing, but that's okay, I'm going to try that.
Logan Miller:I might show for sure, please do.
Jenna Weishar:Barbie doll has the same kind of like I said, like satire, where you're making it light, but you're also like punching the message in the face, though without being annoying.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:You know Well, thank you, I'm glad that you think it's like obviously like catchy and not annoying, which was definitely my biggest goal in that too, and it's to not, you know, have it come across like I'm trying to push people around, um, but yeah, I don't know, like again, like with that one, like just a ton of like real world things that I think are really stupid to kind of impose on women, and I don't just feel the way about women, like I think you know, guys having to be told that they're macho and like you know, like get a lot of girls, make some like family and like stuff like that. Like I just think, yeah, yeah.
Logan Miller:I just think stuff like that, never felt so much so gross. I've never felt so toxic.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Hey man, we're taking the toxic down, but, oh my God, like there's no. There's no toxic person in this group, but uh, jenna. Jenna pointed at herself Okay, well, you didn't see me like peak.
Jenna Weishar:See my eyes when I was practicing my gaslighting on everybody. Okay, yeah.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Gaslighting is a hobby, is sometimes fun to people who you know suck no hate.
Logan Miller:No, she was practicing on me.
Jenna Weishar:I was practicing on him and you know, oh my.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:God, you know, I would find that funny.
Jenna Weishar:He was like yeah, sliding me and I was like just practicing. I don't think so. Do you feel like you're being gaslight?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:and he's like oh my God, wow, that's my gaslighting with. Just talking about gaslighting is my all time favorite gasoline.
Jenna Weishar:Literally mag taught me that so fast.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Just for fun, everybody, we're not really mean just for fun, it's for the joke, it's for the bit. Okay, that's right, it's for the bit. Commit to the bit. Yes, no, obviously, like I feel that way about, I feel just as poorly about toxic masculinity as I feel about having that you know, hyper feminine ideology for women, because I just don't think these you know ideologies make sense in modern town. Well, I don't think they made sense back then. And yeah, I just think people should get to be how we are, because it's not black and white, we're just like a spectrum of different humans doing our thing. So, yeah, that's why I kind of inspired Barbie doll but wanted to keep it funny and cool, because that's because what I just said there's a little bit serious to be cool and funny. But yeah, gotta say the important stuff still.
Logan Miller:You figure it out.
Jenna Weishar:I'm doing my funny and cool Wow I'll take it my help review.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:It's my help review, okay, perfect. Yes, please, please, add some good yelp reviews. We love we love funny and cool. I'll take it. I'll take it.
Logan Miller:Five out of five Well, does recommend yes.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Oh my God, yeah, woodshop here again. Yeah, all right, I'm getting my Google going. I'm writing to you guys to make some reviews.
Jenna Weishar:Oh my gosh. Um. Okay, I was gonna mention this earlier, but I kind of forgot somewhere along the line. You taught yourself to play guitar, didn't you?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Um, yes, like I definitely. Like I kind of had a class in high school that sort of taught us and then I picked it up kind of after that, but I learned guitar so that I didn't have to like pay someone else.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah because yeah, and I know like a lot of artists kind of taking that route as well, like, just because it gets expensive when you're Doing gigs that don't pay a ton and you got a higher, like a bunch of other people already. So for me I was like, yeah, like I want to be able to do that myself in situations where so I can make more money.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Early on, and now I'm obviously to express art on guitar like I grew up playing piano, so I kind of already had that in the bag. But you know, different songs get written on different instruments and for me now I find guitar is kind of the main thing. I sit and play. Obviously it's more convenient. Yeah it's more like a log in your piano around, but they Already they speak differently, these two instruments. So it's nice, it's nice to be functional.
Logan Miller:I also grew up playing piano and I found it very difficult to transition to guitar. Like it just didn't Translate in my from my head to my fingers and so like, did you find that difficult as well, or did it's just like? You're naturally musical and I'm not?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:okay, definitely not that For me. Like Speaking on piano, like pianos for sure, what I have stronger theory on, like I could solo on a piano I could not solo on my acoustic guitar by any means. Like I have a pretty basic understanding of how to get around, but because I had the theory from piano, I can kind of apply it to like the notes on guitar. But I'm definitely not, you know, tracking us alone in a session by any means.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I'm usually just kind of strumming and courting, but yeah, so definitely. The learning curve to guitar for me was very weird and I haven't really advanced past, just like it's so hard. Yeah.
Logan Miller:I find. I mean I like I started playing piano when I was four, so it comes kind of natural to me. I'm not playing for anybody, let's just start with that.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:But I think you are now that you announced that but Like I can, I get, I understand chords.
Logan Miller:So, like on the guitar, I get the chords. But as soon as it comes to like individual notes and like I know it, my brain does not compute, I don't know.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, I, I think pianos are smarter instrument for like doing individual notes stuff, because it's just so like easy to see where they are. We're like on guitar. I'm like, yeah, like you can play the same note like in five different places, like and then trying to get your finger into an F quickly, no thanks.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Of course I've. Barcours are always the deadly ones that everyone hates. I was, I was fine, that funny, but it's, it's true, like it's. Yeah, it's, it's definitely I. I found it was a learning curve and I'm not really qualified to speak on being good at guitar because I'm just like a functional guitar player, but I found piano more accessible for sure said the hired guitar player.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I Hired okay, I'm hired to play acoustic guitar like strumming and do some like pretty basic, like Finger-picking stuff. I definitely would have said no if they're like, hey, like you're gonna solo on this instrument, I'm like I'll never be good enough in time. But thank you, you know what I'm good.
Jenna Weishar:Thank you so much. Is there any Instrument you would like to learn or wish you learned? Because my family didn't put me in music at all when I was kid. I only played sports, and I was like this would come in handy.
Logan Miller:What do you want to play, jenna first.
Jenna Weishar:Well, I wanted to play the piano and the my grandma tried to show me, but she doesn't know either, she just does it. Yeah, oh, it's really annoying, it's really annoying.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:You're like, I can't learn from you grandma, she's like I literally can't teach you.
Jenna Weishar:I don't know, she can listen and just play. Oh, just a little bit, charlie poofy, just a little bit, yeah. And then I wanted to play guitar and I was like I can't focus long enough to do that. I can't focus on, like driving standard. I can't do that either, because I'm not going to be able to focus.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's important for driving in general.
Jenna Weishar:For everyone else's safety. Yeah, I'm not learning any instruments. I learned the recorder in school. That was it.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I mean, that's a gem of an instrument, if I do say so myself.
Logan Miller:Not when it's 30 kids in grade three playing it.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Those are, those are sacred times. I don't know what you're talking about.
Jenna Weishar:What a pain.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Anyways, is there any instrument you would like to learn, or I wish you learned um, I mean I, I always wanted to learn fiddle since I ever got into country.
Logan Miller:I feel like that would be something that would be, that'd be killer.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, I just think it'd be cool to be able to like sing and fiddle like at the same time Like kenzie porter. I've seen her do that and it's just an.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:It's a, it's an easy instrument for a front person to kind of sing and then play and like that to me I just think it's cool and yeah, I don't know, like that I wish I had Been more country growing up so that that might have kind of like come up Like while I was a kid. You're like very impressionable and you can learn stuff easily and. But now I'm like Fiddle like that has a harder, hard learning curve because it's just like for me, I just don't have any of the skills to like make that go, and nowadays you don't have the time. But if I ever do, I'm like maybe I'll try and do that because that instrument is cool.
Jenna Weishar:It is cool. Also, when you're a child you don't appreciate any of those things.
Jenna Weishar:But like, my first concert was the leis he's I saw the leis he family my mom used to tap dance Our step dance, whatever and one of their sons played fiddle and they would Do it everywhere in our county. They were a little duo and she was like you need to come see the leis, he's play. And they danced and they played fiddle and so that was my actual, my first concert, but I tell people it was Hilary Duff, because that was my second concert?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, because I'm sure, I'm sure you'll have. You'll be like who is the leis? He's literally. Yeah, that's cool, though, oh my gosh. I know I don't know if you ever knew the Fitzgeralds, but I went to school with one of them and same thing like this, like family fiddling band, and Like you never realize how, how involved that community is with that music, with.
Jenna Weishar:I know.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, it's like so impressive to watch the shows and have them do it's entertaining. It is you know and you never, because it's usually at least the one from what I've seen like instrumental music. It's not so much lyric and so there's not something that someone with no Music knowledge can like grab on to like a lyric. So, yeah, they have to be entertaining if, if you, you know. Yeah you see the music, so it's. They're great shows, yeah, so that's very cool, really cool.
Jenna Weishar:Hey, I remember just watching like a six-year-old like tap, like dancing, and then all of a sudden just like picking up a little fiddle and doing it the same time, and I was like what am I here for? I have no, I need a purpose in life. I can't do that.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I feel the same way you always see those like internet videos of like young kids. Just like virtue wasic it would ever do you know, like why am I alive?
Logan Miller:It's like screw you child.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I'm so mediocre, but gosh, here we are, alive at thriving.
Logan Miller:We're alive. I don't some days, I don't know, for thriving. Here we are alive alive and being there we go.
Jenna Weishar:Okay, before we come to the end here, I think I mean I've heard we we were teasing a little bit before, but you are working on your next single, hopefully to come out, um, and I've heard it live and I think it's hilarious. I'll thank you. I don't know if Logan, you've heard it, but why don't?
Logan Miller:you tell us a little bit about it.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I must have heard it because I've seen you perform not too long ago um, probably, I usually try and get it into all my sets now because I do, it's my song right before I do Thunderstruck, because I kind of like set it up to go into that. So if you've seen Thunderstruck which obviously that's a song people recognize right away that you've probably seen this one which is called house husband. Um, it definitely is going to continue with that like satire vibe, for I guess what my kind of brand is now where it's like cheeky. Um, I definitely wanted.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Good, okay, I'm glad you think so. It doesn't come across as you know, preachy, which is the last thing I want.
Logan Miller:Not at all for me. He's like okay great.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:But yeah, I definitely wanted like a honey. I'm home vibe, and I heard, uh, someone used the term house husband one time and I just thought that was like such a fun way to like A fun thing to like kind of like include as like a song and I'm like, yeah, like why not? So, uh, yeah, I'm excited to be putting that one up soon possibly today. It's possibly already depending on the timing of this podcast, possibly in this window. That'd be my great. It'll make great promo, girls, it's true. So it'll be out sometime.
Jenna Weishar:Are you working on the? I you are, like pretty involved in the, in the, in the visual of your work too right, so I like to be cool for this.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, you know what I got this idea? No, okay.
Jenna Weishar:Okay, I was gonna be like, no, I handed it over this time around.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Um, I mean yeah, yeah, you know what? No, uh, there's no formal plan, kind of like I've not. Like, I like working with aj from roadhouse. He's obviously, as we're filming this podcast, on tour with baileys emmerman, kind of doing the video for them.
Logan Miller:So he's a little tied up.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I haven't seen him in a while, but I know he's back Uh soon, and so I'm hoping to be just with him.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Gonna be like hey, man, you're back. You're back in Canada. Great, I got all this stuff. I want to know. I, I'm gonna definitely steal them for this music video. Um, and I really want. I'll cheat it because I just We'll air out the idea and you guys tell me if you think it's funny and if it's not, then we'll just cut this part out of the podcast. Okay, so nobody know, but I really want it to be like a Joking, like a polyandrous situation where I'm like this gal and I have this like group or husband.
Jenna Weishar:Yeah, I like serving and feet.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yes, totally joking. Everyone that's listening. That's not my dream life, but I just think it is very funny and it's.
Logan Miller:It automatically puts a visual in your head to like the song house husband.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, and it's like that to me, like I just and I like using music videos to communicate Humor, because obviously if you find the video entertaining, you're gonna listen to the whole song. So, yep, um, I'm like, hey, like this is kind of my idea. Hopefully it comes to fruition that way. Um, but yes, if that's a cool idea, I gotta roll with this.
Logan Miller:Yes, I don't know why.
Jenna Weishar:okay, this is probably somebody needs to be your footstool. Somebody needs to be your footstool.
Logan Miller:Absolutely, I can paint my toenails too this song, like the song that I'm thinking of in the music video that just popped into my head, is I can't believe I didn't even know this song milk money by furky.
Jenna Weishar:Pardon, no one's heard this song. Oh my god, you have to go watch the music video for milk money.
Logan Miller:It is, I basically like kind of that, but not really. Yeah, like it's mostly all housewives. Yeah, yeah, you should go. It's a terrible song and it's not a great music video either.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:I'm like I've never heard of that before.
Logan Miller:But it's quite funny.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Oh my God, I'm going to go steal ideas for sure. I definitely have been like looking at like X's and O's by L King as that one.
Logan Miller:Oh, great song.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Where there's, like you know, these like oiled up dudes, like fanning her and she's like just sitting in this chair, and I'm definitely going to make the house husbands wear those like fake, like muscle shirts, those like T-shirts with the like the T-shirt ones.
Jenna Weishar:Yep, yeah, obviously like you should make them wear bikinis instead, though.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Ooh. Just like really really push the dynamic. Yeah, all the way. Oh my God. Okay, well, okay, I'm going to make them wear bikinis instead. That would be a perfect thing. That's so funny If my kind friends, who I'm definitely going to rope into doing this video for me will do that, then I will absolutely enforce that.
Logan Miller:If they don't do it, not your friends.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Wow, exactly, I will just, I'll just peer pressure them. I was going to say gaslight, but it's not quite there. But maybe I could just gaslight them and get Jenna on them because she's been practicing.
Jenna Weishar:So good. So we're not friends, so you won't do this one small thing for me. I could feel like I've done a lot for you and this doesn't feel like a tall ass. You're hired, you're hired. I will negotiate. I mean, gaslight them and they're doing it, no problem. Amazing, Speaking of music videos and doing things for your friends. I just watched Nicole Ray's music video, for how did she put in the mud?
Logan Miller:Oh wait, maybe describe what you're actually saying, jenna, here Finish the sentence.
Jenna Weishar:Nicole Ray's music video for Turkey. I didn't even say that, yeah, so Nicole's video came out a couple of weeks ago and you are featured in a mud fight. I am. That is one of those things.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:That's definitely that was the surprise of the day. I knew like I was like hey, like I definitely want to help out with this video, cause obviously, as all of us go through like we, sometimes we need people at videos and it's us helping each other out. And she's like hey, like can you like bring a bathing suit? Like we might need some like extras for this, like one seat.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Extras, you were the main one and then originally, and then like some stuff kind of fell through Like stuff always does on days like that and she's like, hey, like can you like be the fight? And I'm like, yeah, sure, I'm like wish I thrown on like a little bit of makeup or something. But you know, here we are doing some mud wrestling and that mud was so cold, Like we're on like a I mean, it's for the bit, it's for the bit, but we're on like a farm, right. So there's sourcing water from like I don't know, Like you're not, like it's not like hot water from inside by any means, so it's just like this, like that muddy hose.
Logan Miller:Did you get sick after it? Because it looked gross?
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:No, it was a hot day, so at least there was like that kind of like you know, making it better.
Jenna Weishar:But no, I didn't.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Maybe the hose off after. It was definitely chilly, because obviously, like the sun's like going down and you're like, oh well, I'm covered in mud now. So I guess I got to get this mud off of me outside before I go like inside of room in someone's total you know facilities or whatever. But no, like it was so fun doing that, like I'm happy that I got to be a part of that in that way, and yep, and now for anyone who wants to watch me mud wrestle on the internet, it's up there.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Can't hide that one.
Jenna Weishar:And she will be casting as much, or for more, mud fights near you. I feel like there might be a gross place on the internet for that, though Maybe not.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:It could be a new side hustle, depending you know. But you're right, there's definitely some some holes on the internet that I don't know. I'll try and steer out of.
Logan Miller:But, a good idea.
Jenna Weishar:That's one of them. That's definitely one of them, woo.
Logan Miller:Well, my friend, thank you so much for joining us. It's been an absolute pleasure.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Well, thank you guys for having me. It's obviously so nice to get to chat with you and hang out, if you will, in our little, a little meeting here, our little Zoom porch.
Jenna Weishar:Our Zoom porch and everyone listening.
Logan Miller:Be sure to check out Mackenzie Lee Meyer, like Oscar Meyer.
Jenna Weishar:Yes, she's funny and cool.
Logan Miller:She's funny and cool yeah.
Jenna Weishar:And watch out for her husband. Yeah, you get yourself one or four.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Peggy.
Jason Saunders:Thanks for listening to another episode of On the Porch. With Front Porch Music, we're so lucky to be able to chat with artists and make episodes like this one. If you like the podcast, remember to rate and review us and subscribe so you don't miss an episode. It's the easiest way to support the show. Remember to check out frontporschmusicca to keep up with new music releases, exclusive artist interviews and more. We'll catch you again on the porch in a couple of weeks. On the porch is hosted by Logan Miller and Jenna Weiser and produced and edited by Jason Saunders. That's me. Our theme song was written, produced and performed by Owen Ridley.
Jenna Weishar:Yeah, yeah, I can smell the onions on my shirt because I was cooking dinner before this and I was like you know what? It's hot, everything else just sticks to you Thieves. Yeah, I smell like food and it's a little. I hate smelling like food Disgusting.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Yeah, that'll do it, onions, you know hard to escape that one.
Jenna Weishar:Well, my fingers don't smell like onions, which is really odd, because I also cut them.
Mackenzie Leigh Meyer:Right. Oh my God, that's so weird. Wow, At least we know you wash your hands really good.
Logan Miller:We're having a conversation about Jenna's hygiene.
Jenna Weishar:But I smell like onions.
Logan Miller:Here's our intro.
Jenna Weishar:No, no, please don't, please, don't. Ok, Anyways, let's talk about it.
Logan Miller:Jason, when you're editing this, find out how to use this audio somehow.
Jenna Weishar:No, don't when you're fired. He's not fired ever.
Logan Miller:Yeah.
Jenna Weishar:We, literally. I don't want him to hear how highly we think of him.
Logan Miller:That's so rude.
